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"The first half was bound; the second half is free.” I deeply feel this. Today's my 66th birthday, and I'll read, sew, walk my dog, and have dinner with my husband. That's it .. that's all. Free.

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Happy birthday, Nancy! 🎂 Here's to freedom...

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That's a beautiful freedom, Nancy.

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Wow! This brought up a lot of feelings for me, especially as someone on the brink of losing her hair from chemo. I don’t think I’m kidding myself when I say that the physical alterations I’ve made in the name of beauty (namely blond hair) have been for me, not to please others. I like the warmth of my altered hair color as much as I like to adorn myself with jewelry and fabrics. These embellishments make me feel like they allow my essence to come through, more so than the random arrangement of physical features I was born with. When my hair goes, I’m glad to have earrings and scarves and lipstick to play with. For me, beauty is self-expression and i appreciate people who allow their beautiful, unique selves to shine, rather than adhering to some arbitrary beauty standard and trying to look like everyone else. I love the wisdom and freedom she’s attained. As we’ve seen time and time again in these Oldster questionnaires, this time of life can be liberating and fun.

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I hear you, Alison. I think it's great to adorn ourselves to our liking! But when we've done it to adhere to externally-imposed standards, it can be nice to break free of that.

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Alison, I lost my hair to chemo and frankly, it was liberating! When my hair started to grow back, it was fine and a mix of gray and dark. I needed fun and dyed it purple, then platinum, then added a few swatches of pink. You’ll have fun with the hats scarves and earrings! Hair is not really that important. Living is important. Hugs.

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Dec 13, 2023·edited Oct 30Liked by Sari Botton

Alison, I completely relate. I lost all my hair to chemo last year and that first moment when the clippers went through my own long, artificially blonde hair was ROUGH. But I’ve kept my hair super short ever since and I can honestly say that, like Gilbert, I feel my own best, pure -- and beautiful-- self this way. Also lipstick helps.

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Thanks for that affirmation. I feel like I’m going to learn a lot about myself and societal standards.

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Chemo and cancer are no joke, and I am not one to brightside this physically and psychologically awful experience but it reveals a lot about who you are and where your strength lives. You got this!

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Thank you! It’s certainly revealing the legion of strong women around the world. Let us run the world!

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Dec 13, 2023·edited Dec 13, 2023

This week is the 20th anniversary of my first chemo (of 4 treatments). Memory holed this all pretty hard, but my tricky brain just let it back out...why?!

Remember being so upset about the idea of my hair (which was not that glorious to begin with). And totally free once it was gone: from male gaze, expectations, from the time it took! I got to keep that with me: the it does not matter / fuck it / just say yes to what you want.

It was rough six months, but doable, challenging, transformative. Earrings & big eyeglasses help!

Sending you all the virtual hugs

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I'm not going through chemo but as I wait for answers on biopsies, I know that if I need chemo, my first trip with be to indulge myself a beautiful high quality wig, damn the cost.

But I would only wear it when I feel like it. because I think a shaved head and the re-growth would also be interesting and dare I say fun once you get your bearings.

We all gotta dig deep to find the thing that feels authentic and healing for ourselves. I wish you the best.

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Thanks! I now have a brown pixie cut and I’m having fun with it. Good luck to you and best wishes for excellent results from your biopsies and a smooth path ahead.

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The very last paragraph hits me deep in my feels, though the whole thing is grand. I also feel wistful sometimes that I'm unlikely to have a long marriage in this lifetime. Certainly never as long as my parents was-- 52 years. But then I remember that my best friend and I have been together for 39 years, and my other best friend for 37. And they know me better, and love me better than any man I ever spent years of my life with. My life is full of long-term love, AND I don't have to share my bed with someone who snores or likes a different level of covers than I do. I don't have to negotiate money with anyone, or where I want to go on vacation. What a miraculous thing it is, to be a woman in her fifties and free.

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"If I had someone like me, I feel certain I never would have married at all." Hah! This! Love it.

I'm a fan of all-age interviews and what you're doing here Sari. Thanks. I'm deeply curious how others have arrived to where they are now. While we all have a story and some milestones are similar in the traditional sense (grief, love, health, work, finances), we all bear witness to life differently.

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Thanks for saying so, Maureen. <3

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I enjoy all of the all-age interviews, too. Life marker moments at any age are milestones.

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Terrific conversation. I too would like to be the woman who tells a bear to fuck off.

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I love that line. (And all the others.)

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Long ago and far away, when we lived in Litchfield, I believe we bought our first Christmas tree from Liz's family's tree farm. Litchfield County women are *serious* business.

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I feel like I know Elizabeth Gilbert because she taught with my mentors (Art Smith and Marilyn Kallet at UT Knoxville but also because Eat Pray Love saved my life a billion times over after my divorce. Her advice to find one amazing thing every day, instead of looking forward to crying, was life changing. Now rereading Big Magic!

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That's great advice. She is such an inspiration.

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Dec 13, 2023Liked by Sari Botton

Absolutely loved this interview! I too am in my 50s and childless, and thank goodness that is becoming more readily accepted! Tapping into our 9-year-old self is indeed freeing, and I truly believe a bit of that wonder and free-spiritedness is a key to happiness. PS I recently read City of Girls, it was fabulous! I gifted it to my 70 something friend who grew up in those neighborhoods, and he absolutely loved it too!

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god these posts fill me up. i have been drenched and drowning in menopause (and peri- for how long before this I have no idea) and today's post provided some necessary buoyancy. especially felt power in this line: (At least until menopause saved me again!). thank you thank you thank you!

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Glad to hear it!

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Mary I hear you re the menopause - I started in my early forties and it just will not go away...

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"My grandfather bought himself a team of oxen as an 80th birthday present for himself, and spent years training them and driving them for fun."

1. This makes me so happy. Anyone who hasn't read CLOUD CUCKOO LAND by Anthony Doerr should immediately go out and get it and learn how incredible oxen are.

2. Thank you, Elizabeth Gilbert, for all of your insights here. Here's to thirty-year friendships, and even longer ones (I have several going on 50+. . . ).

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Your grandfather sounds like a star....

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This is EVERYTHING. I almost can’t put into words how much this means to me!! Thank you so much for putting it into the world, Sari.

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😘

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I chose my long-married-with-two-kids life, but I love to fantasize about this alternative path, expressed so well here. I shaved off my hair in my early 20s and oh how this makes me itch to do it again.

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Returning to your nine-year-old self is so relatable. I've rediscovered that barefoot wild child in my life too. We're good friends, now and she encourages me to play, and to make things. I smiled all the way through the reading of this interview. Thank you.

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every word of this...post-meno + sobriety + going grey + living alone is the sweet spot for real

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I found so much of this relatable, too. Glad it resonated.

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I relate to so much of this!! I think she shows how liberating growing older can be. I just turned 56 and I was talking to an old friend and he was like how did we get so old and I was like I don’t know but also how did we not know how amazing this would be? I can’t believe how much I dreaded something that has been the best part of my life.

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“ how did we not know how amazing this would be? I can’t believe how much I dreaded something that has been the best part of my life.” Yes. Part of why this magazine exists. Thank you.

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it is funny our attitudes about aging- as a 56 year old too - why we waste so much time being worried about something that we can not do anything about! not exactly a big secret. My worst time was turning 30 - what a silly sausage

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Yes, 30 was hard!

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bonkers right - so much expended energy - and guess what - not dead yet!!!!

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Calling people honey and sweetheart is the bomb! As is alone time and not having to take anyone else’s wishes into account. The media has done us such a disservice promoting the “research” on the benefits of connection. In my experience, that’s only true if your connection to yourself is impaired. I am my favorite person to hang out with. Liz, I hope you write more about this stage of your life so you can nudge the needle back toward balance. Thanks for sharing and giving voice, yet again, to those of us who draw outside the lines 💜

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This is what we all need to be aware of and take from this interview: “What I do look forward to, however, is becoming even more mentally and spiritually free. “

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